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New here, trying to find answers I can't find elsewhere. Resound products, Nexia 9 with disposable size 13 batteries. I have all the software and hardware to connect, already sucessfully saved my settings.

Do, generic question, basically for any brand or level. If you went into an office type environment, not too loud but hollow with hard surfaces, and the hearing aids responed by getting overly loud, which settings would you look to first?

I don't want to mess with the gain adjustments as I have had REM fitting and I'm pretty satisfied with how I hear. I think the answer will be in the environmental optimizer page or advanced features speech or comfort pages.
 
I dunno ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - I have never worn modern ReSound HAs models. Just the legacy models that don't work very well.
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Do, generic question, basically for any brand or level. If you went into an office type environment, not too loud but hollow with hard surfaces, and the hearing aids responed by getting overly loud, which settings would you look to first?
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A recent personal experience for me is the automatic clarity provided by a new technology → AI DNN/Deep Neural Network. AFAIK, only 3 of the Big-5 manufacturers have implemented this technology. Last week (at a medical appointment) I sat in a large waiting room;
  • I sat against the back wall facing four receptionists behind plexiglass panels
  • with maybe a dozen patients, some on my side, some in front of me (between me and the receptionists)
I could hear everything crystal clear, the receptionist, everyone around me. It felt like I was eavesdropping.

I know this doesn't answer your question. I am just suggesting that if you have an opportunity to experience a free-trial of this technology then take advantage of the opportunity.
 
pvc,

Unfortuantly I can only afford what I have. It would be glorious to partake of the finer thngs, but alas, I'm going to have to work with what I have.

Surely there must be someone with Resound Smart Fit knowledge?
 
We don't know anything your hearing loss/Audiogram (see my Signature for an example). Have you tried adjustments via the ReSound Smart 3D App?

The Smart 3D app offers various functionalities. Users can switch between programs, access accessories, and utilize filters for noise and speech clarity. They can adjust volume levels individually or simultaneously for both ears and utilize the Sound Enhancer, which includes a three-band equalizer for audio adjustments, applicable to streaming as well. Additional features such as noise and wind noise reduction can also be adjusted.
 
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Not sure how to link the audiogram, but here is what I have.
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Oh, a cookie bite hearing loss is difficult to fit. Here's a → generic description link that simply says;

Cookie-bite hearing loss is another name for mid-range hearing loss, which means a person struggles to hear in the "middle" frequencies of sound.
Most speech and music are in this range, so cookie-bite hearing loss can affect the ability to communicate and enjoy music.
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If you went into an office type environment, not too loud but hollow with hard surfaces, and the hearing aids responed by getting overly loud, which settings would you look to first?
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One more question, do you mean incredibly loud like a train whistle at a RR/Crossing or just annoyingly loud? Not that I will know how to fix it? I just wanted to understand the loudness level. I can load up the SmartFit software and poke around the Help files. You can also do this, Feature Demonstrations are available from the Help menu. The demonstrations typically include both text and short videos. Here's some other links;
 
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It wasn't feedback. I think when I was in the laid back position (dentist chair) my microphones were aimed out the door. The room was open, with no door into the hall. I've heard some hearing aids struggle with large empty rooms. I'm now used to quiet sounds being overly loud, and constant state noises being muffled by the programming. This was like voices and all the small sounds got amplified all at once. It wasn't unbearably loud to the point of the uncomfortable threshold, but it was something I'd like to tone down.
 
And by the way, how do you make a link to your audiogram? That's pretty neat.
 
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It wasn't feedback. I think when I was in the laid back position (dentist chair) my microphones were aimed out the door. The room was open, with no door into the hall. I've heard some hearing aids struggle with large empty rooms. I'm now used to quiet sounds being overly loud, and constant state noises being muffled by the programming. This was like voices and all the small sounds got amplified all at once. It wasn't unbearably loud to the point of the uncomfortable threshold, but it was something I'd like to tone down.
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Hmm; I don't worry about seldom encountered hearing problems while in a laid back position.

Walking, standing, sitting, Yes. But not when laid back.
 
Here's a → Video Link about using ReSound Smart apps: Sound Enhancer to adjust Noise Reduction & Speech Focus.
 
I tried the Resound apps, but my phone is incompatible. I went ahead and took the plunge, reset my hearing aids to the original settings and then purposely made changes I would recognize, then went and reset to original again to verify if I'd botched it. Success! After that I deleted all the unused apps they installed and kept the All Around and Hear in Noise. Then I pushed my gain higher ranges up 1-2 db. Everything seems more natural now. I think my REM fittings may have lowered the high frequencies too much.
 
REM (Real Ear Measurements) simply verifies that the sound getting to your eardrum matches the amount of gain Rx'd/Prescribed for your hearing loss/Audiogram.
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Everything seems more natural now.
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That seems very cool as long as you didn't lose any understanding of speech :cool:
 
I'm a little confused by all the jargon and secrecy about fitting. I worked in industry all my life, and we had tests to "prove" that maintenance and procedures worked (or didn't work). I asked the audiologist if there was a test to verify hearing aid efficacy by using word recognition scores, they said there wasn't. Seems like it'd be pretty basic. Do a series of spoken words, at specific voice tones, at specific measured volumes, and verify whether the score is increasing or decreasing, but with the hearing aids functioning in the ear.
 
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if there was a test to verify hearing aid efficacy by using word recognition scores
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Yes there is such a test as part of → Standard Hearing Tests (Audiometry). But what they do with the test results is another question? I was excited to learn that this word recognition testing could be simplified, and shortened using new technology, named ACT/Audible Contrast Threshold.

But, I doubt that today's very expensive Audiometers used by Audiologists will provide this new capability to perform ACT testing any time soon. See this → post which has a video link about → ACT/Audible Contrast Threshold.
 
Interesting! What do you think the chances of that appearing in public any time soon are?
 
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Interesting! What do you think the chances of that appearing in public any time soon are?
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Soon?? Well it's already here/supported. See this post → New Hearing Aid Technology with (AI DNN/Deep Neural Network). But it's new and not widely adopted.

Though again, it is anyone's guess as to what our learned Doctors of Audiology (AuDs) will do with it. And my guess is they will wait. Wait until Audible Contrast Threshold (ACT) test is supported in most of their (expensive /audiometers /hardware) currently in use.

And wait until manufacturers widely adopt ACT, currently it's available from 3 out of five manufacturers and I don't believe that anyone actually inputs the ACT value as part of the First Fit. Instead (and AFAIK) they still use Best Practice (Audiogram from PTA/Pure-tone audiometry and REM/Real Ear Measurement).
 
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