Do we need to install any driver to use Noahlink Wireless?

[SRM]

I have purchased the Noahlink Wireless recently but unable to use it. Can anyone help out with this issue?

 

[pvc]

Yes your Noahlink Wireless hearing aid programming device needs a driver, here's a clip from a DIY School Hearing Aids (v2.2) PDF File named (Noahlink Wireless 2 - DIY User Guide).

How to connect Noahlink Wireless to your computer?

Noahlink Wireless is a USB plug-and-play programming interface so it’s pretty simple. First, install your modern (not legacy) fitting software. This should setup a Noahlink Wireless driver as per the HIMSA downloads webpage.

• First install the fitting software. Why? To load a Noahlink Wireless Driver, that’s why.
• Connect Noahlink Wireless to any USB2 or USB3 port on your computer, or connect Noahlink Wireless 2 to a USB-C port. A solid green light for (2-3 seconds) on Noahlink Wireless without any errors indicates that Noahlink Wireless is powered on and ready to use. Easy Peasy, right?
• If you happen to plug-in Noahlink Wireless before installing the fitting software, then you may encounter a missing Noahlink Wireless driver problem. If you encounter this missing Noahlink Wireless driver problem, then read the trouble shooting steps in the Appendix of this document.

 

[pvc]

Also; the DIY School Hearing Aids (v2.2) access portals are at your finger tips via 24/7 cloud storage access.

• Start here → DIY School Hearing Aids (v2.2) to find the access portals
• You can easily find the Access Portals again/anytime, by clicking any PVC Avatar (click twice - counting the 2nd popup Avatar)
• When logged in, you can find the Access Portals again/anytime, by clicking a Link in my Signature
• And finally, you can perform a simple Internet search for "DIY School Hearing Aids"

 

[SRM]

Yes your Noahlink Wireless hearing aid programming device needs a driver, here's a clip from a DIY School Hearing Aids (v2.2) PDF File named (Noahlink Wireless 2 - DIY User Guide).

How to connect Noahlink Wireless to your computer?

Noahlink Wireless is a USB plug-and-play programming interface so it’s pretty simple. First, install your modern (not legacy) fitting software. This should setup a Noahlink Wireless driver as per the HIMSA downloads webpage.

• First install the fitting software. Why? To load a Noahlink Wireless Driver, that’s why.
• Connect Noahlink Wireless to any USB2 or USB3 port on your computer, or connect Noahlink Wireless 2 to a USB-C port. A solid green light for (2-3 seconds) on Noahlink Wireless without any errors indicates that Noahlink Wireless is powered on and ready to use. Easy Peasy, right?
• If you happen to plug-in Noahlink Wireless before installing the fitting software, then you may encounter a missing Noahlink Wireless driver problem. If you encounter this missing Noahlink Wireless driver problem, then read the trouble shooting steps in the Appendix of this document.

Hi @pvc,
Firstly, I want to thank you helping.
I have followed the " DIY School Hearing Aids (v2.2) PDF File named (Noahlink Wireless 2 - DIY User Guide)". It was very useful.
Now when I am connecting Noahlink Wireless device it is showing the below pic. Should I confirm the Noahlink Wireless is ready to use.


First install the fitting software. --> I have already installed Sound Designer fitting tool.
When connecting Noahlink Wireless, a solid green light for (2-3) secs on Noahlink Wireless appears.
In sound Designer software, I am unable to connect the Noahlink Wireless or it unable to detect the device. It is shown as below image.
What can we cause? How to solve this?
Thank you

 

[SRM]

One more issue found
In HIMSA downloads webpage, when i download the Driver_NLW_V.1.1.0.0.exe and open it. Iam unable to open it. Why?
Can you please help for this ?
Thank You

 

[pvc]

Your HIMSA/Noahlink Wireless device has a valid driver.

What the heck is a "Sound Designer fitting tool"??? What hearing aid model are you trying to program? When we talk about DIY fitting we are talking about hearing aids models from the Big-5 manufacturers and that does not include (OTC/Over-The-Counter) hearing aids.

You don't open a .exe/executable file. You run it by double-mouse-clicking it using fast clicks. But you don't need it because your Noahlink Wireless device already has a valid driver.

 

[pvc]

Are these OTC → EARGO Hearing aids?

 

[SRM]

Hi pvc,
Thanks for the response.
Correct me if wrong. " I don't need any drivers to installed separately for Noahlink Wireless ".

First of all we Research & Development team, working on hearing aid designing and development.
As we have taken Onsemiconductor reference hearing aid model with sound designer fitting tool.

• Sound Designer fitting tool is also a Hearing Aid fitting software supported by On semi. Below I have attached a link will give more information on Sound designers.
  Ezairo7160SL Getting Started Manual
  
  
• We have contacted the On semi regarding the problem on Noahlink Wireless connectivity and got to know that we need to purchase the driver to make Noahlink Wireless interfaced with Sound Designer fitting tool to program the Hearing Aid.
• As per past forum discussions, I got to know that Noahlink Wireless does not required drivers.

So, I need to find out how to program Hearing Aid using Noahlink Wireless device?

You don't open a .exe/executable file. You run it by double-mouse-clicking it using fast clicks. But you don't need it because your Noahlink Wireless device already has a valid driver.

I have run it by double-mouse- clicking it using fast clicks, but I found no response. Don't know why?

 

[pvc]

Correct me if wrong. " I don't need any drivers to installed separately for Noahlink Wireless ".

Yes, you need a MS Windows device driver. And you already have a MS Windows device driver as per your previous image, this one;

So, I need to find out how to program Hearing Aid using Noahlink Wireless device?

No I don't think that's what you need to do. That's a task for Sound Designer fitting tool!! Not you.

AFAIK; Certifying a new/different MS Windows driver is a very long process of approval. It can take years!

If the Sound Designer fitting tool cannot already use Noahlink Wireless like (Oticon Genie 2, Phonak Target, ReSound SmartFit and other manufacturers), then there is nothing you can do to force this on your own.

We have contacted the On semi regarding the problem on Noahlink Wireless connectivity and got to know that we need to purchase the driver to make Noahlink Wireless interfaced with Sound Designer fitting tool to program the Hearing Aid.

No one is selling Noahlink Wireless drivers. You must have misunderstood.

Yes On semi needs a driver! But if they lack this critical component, there is nothing you can do about it.

 

[SRM]

Hi pvc,

One more issue found
In HIMSA downloads webpage, when i download the Driver_NLW_V.1.1.0.0.exe and open it. Iam unable to open it. Why?

Could you please tell me why I uable to use above links to open drivers?

No one is selling Noahlink Wireless drivers. You must have misunderstood.

For information, Himsa manufacturers is selling drivers.
Thank you.

 

[pvc]

Could you please tell me why I unable to use above links to open drivers?

Maybe your Windows Settings (Privacy & Security) is protecting you? I am not comfortable with discussions about OS security because the results could end up with questionable/undesirable results, which some may want and others may not want??

For information, Himsa manufacturers is selling drivers.

I meant that HIMSA provides the Windows Driver free and you will be unable to find other sellers. Here's my Driver File Details. Check your Driver File Details against this working version using your Windows Device Manager.

 

[SRM]

Hi pvc,

Check your Driver File Details against this working version using your Windows Device Manager.

I have checked the above shown driver files. The same files appears in my system when i connect Noahlink Wireless programmer.

Can anyone help to use Noahlink Wireless programmer using Sound Designer fitting tool to program Hearing Aid?
Thank you

 

[menglxs]

I think the Driver path in the Sound Designer software should point to a specific location in the Window system, not to the exe file you downloaded.




Borrowing a picture from PVC, I think this is the correct drive path.

 

[pvc]

I think the Driver path in the Sound Designer software should point to a specific location in the Window system, not to the exe file you downloaded.

Yes, that might work. Thanks @menglxs !

Try entering "C:\Windows\System32\drivers\winusb.sys" without the quotes into the Driver path of the Sound Designer software.

btw> that is a hidden Windows System file and you will typically not be able to see the presence of the file using Windows file explorer unless you have changed a windows setting to view hidden files.

 

[SRM]

Hi @pvc and @menglxs,
Thanks for the response. I have tried above method, but the sound designer fitting tool uanble to scan the noahlink Wireless.
Thank you

 

[pvc]

First of all we Research & Development team, working on hearing aid designing and development.
As we have taken Onsemiconductor reference hearing aid model with sound designer fitting tool.

• Sound Designer fitting tool is also a Hearing Aid fitting software supported by On semi. Below I have attached a link will give more information on Sound designers.
  Ezairo7160SL Getting Started Manual

I don't agree with your statement that (Ezairo7160SL) is also a Hearing Aid fitting software program.

Perhaps, Ezairo7160SL could be a tool for creating a Hearing Aid fitting software program? Here's a clip from the Ezairo7160SL Getting Started Manual;

CHAPTER 2 -
Full details for the Ezairo 7160 SL hybrid module (including a hearing-aid connection diagram) can be found in this link to → Ezairo 7160 SL data sheet.

 

[SRM]

I don't agree with your statement that (Ezairo7160SL) is also a Hearing Aid fitting software program.

Yes, you are right. Ezairo7160SL is programmable IC not fitting software. Sound Designer is the fitting tool software.

 

[pvc]

HMm; It doesn't make sense to ask what model hearing aid you are trying to program because all hearing aids are either;

• OTC Hearing Aids that don't require detailed-programming to fit a specific hearing loss, Or;
• Hearing Aids that DO require detailed-programming to fit a specific hearing loss and the fitting software is already available

So maybe I can ask this way? Are you a building new hearing aids from generic hearing aid parts?

• audio processor/chip/SOC
• microphones
• speakers
• wireless radio

 

[SRM]

Hi all,
Thank you for the efforts made to participate in discussion.
@pvc, your documents in dropbox were very helpful.
Conclusion:

• Using a NOAHlink™ Wireless, then it requires its driver and the Noahlink SDK DLLs provided by HIMSA. To verify that the driver is installed when plugged in, open the Device Manager and verify that Noahlink Wireless is present under HIMSA. See https://www.himsa.com/en-us/download/noahlinkwireless.aspx if it isn’t. Contact HIMSA to acquire the Noahlink SDK DLLs. The path to those DLLS is set when using the Sound Designer SDK. The Sound Designer SDK supports NOAHlink Wireless version 1.3.0.
• In Website link, the supplier contains the list of supplier of fitting tool who are certified from HIMSA. So Noahlink Wireless supports those suppliers without any external Noahlink SDK DLLs.

Thank you

 

[pvc]

Here's a clip from a DIY School Hearing aids (v2.2) PDF file named (Noahlink Wireless 2 – DIY User Guide);

How to connect Noahlink Wireless to your computer?

Noahlink Wireless is a USB plug-and-play programming interface so it’s pretty simple. First, install your modern (not legacy) fitting software. This should setup a Noahlink Wireless driver as per the HIMSA downloads webpage.

• First install the fitting software. Why? To load a Noahlink Wireless Driver, that’s why.
• Connect Noahlink Wireless to any USB2 or USB3 port on your computer, or connect Noahlink Wireless 2 to a USB-C port. A solid green light for (2-3 seconds) on Noahlink Wireless without any errors indicates that Noahlink Wireless is powered on and ready to use. Easy Peasy, right?
• If you happen to plug-in Noahlink Wireless before installing the fitting software, then you may encounter a missing Noahlink Wireless driver problem. If you encounter this missing Noahlink Wireless driver problem, then read the trouble shooting steps in the Appendix of this document.